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brace yourself for family guy

2010-08-20T19:32:48-08:00

In the beginning there was “Family Guy.” As a television show it started, ran for two years, was cancelled, ran for a third year, and was cancelled again three years ago. Fox pulled it off the air despite its multitudes of fans. Once the show was cancelled a second time, plans began to form, like an egg, to at least make a movie to tie up all the loose ends where the show left off. Though Fox has (at least for now) returned ‘Family Guy’ to television for a fourth season, we now have the movie too.
Remember all the comments I’ve made in other reviews about fart jokes, cleavage shots, chins looking like scrotums floozy women, racial stereotypes, unbelievable behaviors, and random flashbacks that don’t advance the plot? Through the creative genius that is Seth MacFarlane, those remarks go shooting out the window. If you’re looking for wholesome, caring, and meaningful shows, “Little House on the Prairie” will be airing sometime between two and five in the morning. This is Family Guy!
If you’ve never seen “Family Guy” the TV show, then brace yourself for the movie. Like I said, Fox has it back on the air , and with every episode MacFarlane tests the waters and continues to push boundaries. Now that there’s a movie, unrated in all its glory, there are no boundaries. For those of us, few and far between, that have been a fan of the Griffins from the beginning, Family Guy Presents Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story is the dessert cart after an already full buffet of television episodes.
Dexter DVD 1-4
Lost DVD 1-6
Family Guy DVD 1-8
Grey’s Anatomy DVD 1-6
Criminal Minds DVD 1-5
Zumba DVD
Ghost-Whisperer DVD 1-5
Weeds DVD 1-5
Bones DVD 1-5

bible study

2009-12-26T18:47:26-08:00

hi everyone, Like all I need some new idea’s about studing the word. How do you all study? Are there specific points you try to learn or do you ‘freelance’ your time with the word? Any pointers would help.

What was Jesus’ BIGGEST fear and what has this got to do with me?

2010-01-26T00:29:35-08:00

Hey Guys and Gals

I wanna hook you all up with this: what really was Jesus’ BIGGEST Fear. We are told by Ellen White
in the Desire of Ages that His biggest fear was separation with the Father and that is His human nature He would fail.
To start with, this has plenty to do with us, because we ourselves fear separation with God,
and admit it, if i was ever completely and utterly separated with my Heavenly Father i would
die, God is my oxygen, and i need Him to live.
But what about the other fear: In His human nature Jesus was scared of failing, in other words Jesus was scared that
He wouldn’t go through with the cross. In a way he was scared that he would fail us. So after all the times we fail Him
He was scared of failing us. WOW, take a step back there, so Jesus was actually scared of failing me, how big is that?
Jesus loved you so much that He not only wrote our names on His heart but he feared for us.
I challenge ya’ll today, Jesus loves you so much, give your day to Him today and return that love and show Him that
even though we fail Him, we love Him enough to go to him and tell Him we are sorry.

The world’s most evil beliefs & the most important issue

2009-06-19T11:14:55-08:00

THE WORLD’S MOST EVIL BELIEFS – IMHO
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/circularity.htm

The eternal torment theology of the Arminian Christian relies on so-called “free will” and luck.

The god that Arminian Christian eternal tormentors profess to love says to his fallen creatures

“Unless you are lucky enough to find out about my son during this lifetime, and even if you are that lucky, if you don’t have the good sense to cooperate with my son properly before you die, then I am going to raise you from the dead and I will sustain you alive in an inescapable state of eternal torment forever.”

The eternal torment theology of the Calvinist Christian relies on God alone, not “free will” at all. It is summed up by the word TULIP: Total depravity, Unconditional election, Limited atonement, Irresistible grace, and the Perseverance of the elect.

The god that Calvinistic Christian eternal tormentors profess to love says to his fallen creatures

“I created most of you for the purpose of torturing you forever. However, I am going to choose a few of you undeserving ones to go to heaven where you will be happy forever.” John Calvin said there will be infants a span long in hell because they were not among the elect. (A span is the distance between the tip of the thumb to the tip of the little finger.)

And then both the Arminian and Calvinistic eternal tormentors say that the feelings that they have for this god of theirs is “love.”

Without God’s sustaining power everyone would cease to exist. So if anyone were to suffer forever, our all-powerful God (Who is Love in essence, not just loving) would be fully 100% responsible for it. We would have to conclude that any definition of the manifestation of “love-in-essence” includes eternally sustaining people alive in an inescapable state of suffering.

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/circularity.htm

What a travesty; what a revolting definition of love it is that God, Who is love personified, would grant any creature a will so strong that they can choose themselves into an irreversible state of never ending suffering (Arminian) or deserve to suffer forever just by being born into the human race (Calvinist)!!

Thank God the Bible does not teach such insane ideas!
http://www.godfire.net/eby/saviour_of_the_world.html
http://www.sigler.org/slagle/absolute.htm
http://richardwaynegarganta.com/universalsalvation.htm

Copy and paste one of the following titles into Google
SAVIOR OF THE WORLD SERIES EBY
Or
ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE IN JESUS CHRIST
Or
UNIVERSAL SALVATION UNIVERSITY

Anyone is welcome to believe anything they want to about what the Bible teaches.

I’m just so glad I learned about the following information.
It enabled me to recover from a twelve year nervous breakdown 1966-78.
I’m 70 now.
I, and many others with whom I have become acquainted, simply could not successfully emotionally cope with the idea that God would let anyone suffer forever. Here is the testimony of Charles Slagle who went insane for the same reasons that I did.
Copy and paste the following title into Google
ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE IN JESUS CHRIST or click on
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Absolute-Assurance-in-Jesus-Christ.html
http://www.sigler.org/slagle/absolute.htm

Eternal Torment Calvinism, Eternal Torment Arminianism, Annihilation, or Christian Biblical Universalism.

Which one of the four is the truth?

This debate nearly always ends with the words, “My Greek scholars are more reliable
than your Greek scholars,” and the result is a stalemate.

If readers think it glorifies God more to believe that He is going to let some of His
creatures suffer forever or annihilate them, then they should keep believing that.
But if they think it glorifies God more to eventually meet everyone on the level of their
greatest and deepest need, which is a change in their stubborn will, then I would like
them to know that that is exactly what the Bible teaches that God is like.

THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE

The findings of Greek scholar Louis Abbott and the other Greek scholars quoted in
chapters three and twelve of his online book IMHO renders all other arguments irrelevant.

IMHO these findings effectively close the case on the arguments that eternal tormentors try so hard to uphold.
But of course one has to actually read them to see what I mean.

Just Google up AN ANALYTICAL STUDY OF WORDS and enjoy, or click on
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/asw/index.html

• Eternal Death Annihilation
• http://www.tentmaker.org/books/EternalDeath.html
• Bible Threatenings Explained
• http://www.tentmaker.org/books/BibleThreateningsExplained.html
• Universal Salvation University
• http://richardwaynegarganta.com/universalsalvation.htm

what would Jesus do about aids?

2006-11-20T06:16:35-08:00

The cover on this weeks (nov. 15-21) Seattle Weekly ask’s the question “ What would Jesus do about aids”
Should we as Christians take more of a leadership role?

Passion of the Christ

2008-05-15T12:12:47-08:00

Adventists have a Warfare world view (God is loving [benevolent] and because of his love invites us to ask for forgiveness because he WANTS us to go to Heaven and we aren’t good enough in the justice of the universe to make it ourselves. Satan pulls people far enough from God [this is the warfare part] that they don’t believe that they need to be forgiven)

I enjoyed Passion of the Christ. It does a good job of showing the hidden half of the gospel. Not only that Jesus endured the punishment that the most horrible human deserves. But that he also showed us that WHO GOD IS is… one that wont even get bitter, or manipulative, or anything close to sin, even during the most horrible times. If WE were sexually abused by a priest, Jesus knows what it is like to be stripped naked and abused by religious authorities (the Pharasies) were we ever verbally abused? Jesus was to the last degree. Have we ever been rejected (Peter), betrayed (Judas), accused wrongly (his trials), insulted, unappreciated, beaten...what about tempted. And still God had the character through it all to restrain himself from escaping the torment, so that he could experience the worst humans have to go through. And still he blessed and loved the men who were crucifying him “Father forgive them”. Jesus is amazing. We should all take opportunities to get to know him. But I will caution you. No one is a perfect teacher. Your cousin who tried to convert you, or your grandma who is praying for your soul. They will exhibit very un-Godly behaviors often. And so will I, its called hypocracy. Don’t let other humans who claim to know Jesus destroy your perception of who he was by their actions. Just know that if you got to know the real him (by reading about him in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) that only then will you really get to know God. Oh and Pray that he will help you to get to know him. He promises that those who TRULY SEEK HIM will find him.

Dr. Kent Hovind shoots down evolution evidence

2008-02-23T09:16:09-08:00

This is a great series. Kent Hovind has debated the biggest evolutionists and has shot them down every time. No need for compromises between what the Bible says and the evidence left on the Earth.

These are excellent faith affirmers and a great way to “stock up” for creation/evolution debates in your own life.

Keep in mind though, that Hovind is not a Seventh-Day Adventist and as such has not done as much research on things like the Sabbath and the state of the dead as he has on creation, and may still have non-Biblical views on those matters. I post him here as an expert on creation science alone.

Part 1 - The Age of the Earth
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8463129851563631666
This session introduces the creation/evolution debate, demonstrating that creation and evolution are irreconcilable worldviews. It also illustrates the impossibility of the Big Bang, and reveals a multitude of evidences that the world simply cannot be billions of years old. It concludes with a demonstration of brainwashing, and how many have been brainwashed by evolutionary theories.

Part 2 - The Garden of Eden
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7815613109692636650
This session discusses the reason people disbelieve the Bible, unscriptural theories that try to reconcile the Bible with evolution, and the incredible differences of the pre-flood world. This is supported with evidence from the Bible and from science. Also covered are “cave men” hoaxes that are still taught today.

Part 3 - Dinosaurs and the Bible
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6833722951687298593
For many years, some thought the existence of dinosaurs discredited the Biblical account of creation. In part three of the seminar series, Dinosaurs and the Bible, Dr. Hovind traces the Biblical and historical references to dinosaurs and interviews people who claim they have seen living dinosaurs.

Part 4 - Lies in the Textbooks
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5665691163985573518
In part four of the seminar series, Dr. Hovind shows how public school textbooks are permeated with fraudulent information in order to convince students that evo
lution is true. Lies in the Textbooks is a must-see for every public school student, teacher, parent and school board member.

Part 5 - Dangers of Evolution
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5240112600444883198
In The Dangers of Evolution, Dr. Hovind reveals the terrible effects that evolutionary beliefs have had on societies throughout history. Giving examples of evolution-based philosophies being used to rationalize the brutal acts of rulers, he exposes evolutionary propaganda in its effort toward the “New World Order.”

Part 6 - The Hovind Theory
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7151934276297772786
The Hovind Theory blends scientific observations with Scripture in a fascinating explanation of what caused Noah’s Flood, the Ice Age, the formation of coal, mountain ranges, and the Grand Canyon. Dr. Hovind gives logical answers to the physical anomalies that geologists cannot explain with the evolutionary theory.

Part 7 - Questions and Answers
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-24125197328580007
The last in the seminar series, Questions and Answers, covers a variety of topics including radiometric dating and the speed of light in relation to star distance. In addition to “primitive man” and race origins, Dr. Hovind discusses the mark of the beast and supposed contradictions in the Bible.

Hovind has also debated some of the top evolutionists. Check these videos out to see evolutionists get schooled:

Kent Hovind versus Mike Shermer, chief editor of Skeptic Magazine
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1410330225420430733

Kent Hovind versus William Moore
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2411795968386591557

There are many more, check out this Google Video search: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=kent+hovind+debate

Church Buildings - Should we go back to houses?

2009-01-24T23:06:09-08:00

I am reading a book called Pagan Christianity -Exploring the roots of our church practices. It makes an interesting remark on Emperor of Rome Constantine converting government, theater, and pagan church buildings for use by Christians. Are we aware of any early church building descriptions that look the way they do now before the time of Constantine?

All of the churches I’ve been to have pews, pulpit and stage, a large sanctuary room. Apparently all of these things are adaptions of things that the Roman government and Pagan churches used. We got rid of a lot of the stuff that came during the dark ages, but it seems likely to me that we should go further, and remove everything that has non-biblical origins.

It might be easy to dismiss me as small minded since I think that Roman and Paganistic heritage of church buildings would be enough to not use use them, but I’d urge anyone who thinks to simply reject this idea without further research to read this book and think about the deeper issues that the book describes. It’s only a single chapter, and doesn’t take long to read. In my county the public library system has many copies of this book.

So I’m wondering what are the arguments for not having church in our houses?

Livin’ like the big C

2006-08-29T02:09:31-08:00

Christian living is the only living worth living

Fire Insurance Christianity

2006-11-02T16:21:19-08:00

A subject that I have been thinking about is how the love of the world affects our religion. I have come to the tentative conclusion that there is a very insidious false religion that is best titled “Fire Insurance Christianity”. What I mean by this is that a convert to “Fire Insurance Christianity” has said a prayer to become a Christian motivated by the desire to escape Hell. The main difference between this and true Christianity is that the motivation to convert to true Christianity is to enter into a proper relationship with God. A proper relationship with God is based on the understanding that the number one commandment, the primary desire of God for us, is that we love God with all of our heart/soul/strength/mind. This is tied quite closely to the fact that He is our Lord. The word ‘Lord’ is not a synonym for the word ‘God’. If someone’s servant was to call them ‘Lord’ they would clearly not mean that they were a god, but rather they would be communicating their relationship with that person that they called ‘Lord’.

Fire Insurance Evangelism is evangelism that produces converts to Fire Insurance Christianity. It is not I believe primarily done by Fire Insurance Christians. I believe that mostly it is done by Christians who genuinely love God and people and who wish to serve God faithfully, but they have not thought through clearly the implications of the gospel message. One example of this type of evangelism is preaching Romans 6:23 and ignoring Rom 6:22. They teach that eternal life is a “free gift”. They then explain that to receive a free gift you simply need to ask for it. Well, they ignore the previous context, especially 6:22 which says that eternal life is the result of a process which comes out of right relationship with God (we have becomes slaves to God- New American Standard Version).

True evangelism (the message I am wrestling with) must, I believe, teach that the motivation to convert must be a desire to enter into a love relationship with the LORD. It also must include that sin is first of all defined by not loving God, to neglect this and go straight to sin means doing things like breaking the 10 commandments leads to a “Fire Insurance” world view and very possibly to conversion to false religion.

Fire insurance Christians can look very much like true Christians. They may study the Bible diligently, attend church religiously and preach many of the proper doctrines. The parable of the wheat and the tares tells us that you can only know them by their fruits. Church attendance is not one of the fruits that distinguishes the two types of religion. You want to look for things like are they/you partaking in the great commission? Are they/you feeding the hungry? Are they/you involved in visiting those in prison or hospitals? Look at the sermon on the mount which Jesus concluded 4 different ways, all of which tell us we need to take his teachings very seriously. The true differences are in the heart, not in outward manifestations of course, but a right heart produces right actions.

I believe that there are many Christians who are too much in love with the world and the lusts of the world to be considered true Christians. In James it tells us that if we would be friends of the world we make ourselves enemies of God. In I John it tells us that if we love the world the love of God is not in us. The parable of the sower teaches us that the love of the world or the fear of it will cause the Word of God to not produce fruit in our lives. In the Sermon on the Mount we see that if the Word of God does not produce fruit in our lives then Jesus will tell us on “that day” to depart from Him, that He never knew us.

What I am really interested in the most is how should the gospel be preached so that it does not result in “Fire Insurance” Christians. I believe that “Fire Insurance Christianity” inoculates people against True Christianity in a way that other false religions do not do. Like inoculations against physical disease, inoculation against Christianity has the real thing, but in a dead or extremely weakened form. The result is a false hope which destroys the necessary spiritual hunger to be truly converted. How do we preach the true gospel in a way that will not give people a false hope but will actually lead people into the arms of Jesus?